Comments for "Pitch correction like you've never seen (or heard)" Video at VideoSift.com

By MarineGunrock

MarineGunrock (http://www.videosift.com/member/MarineGunrock) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:05:13 -0700

I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...

By fissionchips

fissionchips (http://fissionchips.videosift.com) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:07:15 -0700

We'll see MG, this is some groundbreaking technology here. The ramifications for the music industry are huge.

By uhohzombies

uhohzombies (http://www.videosift.com/member/uhohzombies) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:08:24 -0700

Great, now we'll be enabling even MORE no talent hacks to become rich and famous just because they have nice tits.

By fissionchips

fissionchips (http://fissionchips.videosift.com) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:14:05 -0700

u.o.zombies, and that's bad how?

By cheesemoo

cheesemoo (http://www.videosift.com/member/cheesemoo) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:39:11 -0700

Just read about this on SA. Good find, this is seriously awesome stuff. I'd play around with it, and I'm not even a music guy.

By nibiyabi

nibiyabi (http://www.videosift.com/member/nibiyabi) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:17:55 -0700

Holy crap!

By youmakekittymad

youmakekittymad (http://www.videosift.com/member/youmakekittymad) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:12:20 -0700

honestly, vocal pitch correction isn't new technology, so i don't see this causing us to have MORE talentless hacks out there than we already do. however, this is an amazing studio tool for independent producers. i wonder what fantastic amount of money they're selling it for.

By cheesemoo

cheesemoo (http://www.videosift.com/member/cheesemoo) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:21:09 -0700

Prices range between $199 for the most basic version, to $699 for the ultra-deluxe super-whizbang edition. Prices and a feature comparison chart for the different editions can be found here.

By CaptWillard

CaptWillard (http://www.videosift.com/member/CaptWillard) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:38:16 -0700

There's no doubt that this is cool, but does anyone think that making music like this is cheating? I'm not a musician, but I kind of look at similarly to how uhohzombies does. Any crappy musician who knows how to work this software will be able to sound like a virtuoso. I realize it doesn't mean that they'll be able to write music any better, but the finished product will certainly sound more professional.

None of that takes away from how impressive this technology is, however.

By cheesemoo

cheesemoo (http://www.videosift.com/member/cheesemoo) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:55:24 -0700

I don't really see "cheating" as an issue here. For me, the end product is all I care about. Can't sing? No worries, just don't try and get me to come to your live show.

(I'm looking at you, DragonForce.)

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:40:32 -0700

Impressive. It reminds me that computers have done so much to change the way we see things (CGI, and animation) and hear things. Why are they so lacking in the other senses?

When are we going to get some software that makes interesting shapes for us to feel- or super realistic programmable smells.

By antonye

antonye (http://www.videosift.com/member/antonye) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:43:02 -0700

There's no doubt that this is cool, but does anyone think that making music like this is cheating?

Not really; no more than an artist overdubbing their own tracks to create a fuller sound, and that has been happening for decades.

As cheesemo says, it's the end product that counts. This is simply a tool that will make production easier and cheaper, as less time will be spent perfecting. That's a good thing for independent artists that don't have large amounts of cash to fund their production and end up releasing sub-standard material, or don't release it at all.

Of course, the tools are open to abuse but that is also true of the tools that are around today anyway.

None of that takes away from how impressive this technology, however.

Very much so!

By Irishman

Irishman (http://www.videosift.com/member/Irishman) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:49:02 -0700

Forget about the music industry, what this'll enable independent artists and bedroom producers to do is *outstanding*

By Rotty

Rotty (http://www.videosift.com/member/Rotty) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:26 -0700

Perhaps some individuals have musical ideas that they cannot express because they lack the ability to physically create them with instuments. Besides in the end, quality will dictate the lifespan of peoples creations. Does it really matter where the art comes from?

By Mezzanine

Mezzanine (http://www.videosift.com/member/Mezzanine) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:52:23 -0700

Wow, unbelievable!

By rottenseed

rottenseed (http://douchebag.videosift.com) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:55:49 -0700

wow.

By Skoll

Skoll (http://www.videosift.com/member/Skoll) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:42:46 -0700

This is really amazing. This offers enormous benefit to everyone interested in music from raw beginners curious about chords to home recorders laying down their own tracks. Would love to play with this, but unfortunately music plug ins are extremely expensive so I doubt I ever will.

By oohahh

oohahh (http://oohahh.videosift.com) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:44:58 -0700

I am completely impressed.

By honkeytonk73

honkeytonk73 (http://www.videosift.com/member/honkeytonk73) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:50:30 -0700

Yeah its neat... but whatever happened to PLAYING the music on an actually instrument, live, with human hands?

While this is amazing technologically, it encourages production of even more 'formulaic re-mixed' trash (in my opinion) music rather than anything truly original.

Just my opinion of course.

By cheesemoo

cheesemoo (http://www.videosift.com/member/cheesemoo) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:54:48 -0700

Well, there's good remixes and there's bad remixes.

There's good live music and there's bad live music.

I don't see how it matters how the good music gets made, just as long as it's good.

Bad music will be ignored as usual.

By Xax

Xax (http://www.videosift.com/member/Xax) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:37:18 -0700

Extraordinarily impressive. I hadn't heard of Autotune, but even that is pretty amazing.

By MarineGunrock

MarineGunrock (http://www.videosift.com/member/MarineGunrock) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:27:11 -0700

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...

I guess I was wrong.

By xxovercastxx

xxovercastxx (http://www.videosift.com/member/xxovercastxx) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:54 -0700

>> ^honkeytonk73:
Yeah its neat... but whatever happened to PLAYING the music on an actually instrument, live, with human hands?

I don't have any hands, you insensitive clod!

>> ^cheesemoo:
Bad music will ~~be ignored~~ ^{top the charts} as usual.

Fixed that for ya.

By AeroMechanical

AeroMechanical (http://www.videosift.com/member/AeroMechanical) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:42:46 -0700

I thought the piano loop with the 'wrong' note sounded a lot better than the corrected version.

Cool program though. I agree in that it will require less technical skill if you can just fix it afterwards but for non-improvised music, it's really the way the artist envisioned it that counts more than how well they executed that vision.

*clip* nevermind, saw what I was looking for.

By fissionchips

fissionchips (http://fissionchips.videosift.com) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:49:09 -0700

AeroM, "real-time" just means a latency of < 10ms or so. A powerful enough processor is all you'd need to make it work.
That said, this is far more powerful as an editing tool. In order to use it in a live situation you would need a comparison track, removing much of the opportunity for improvisation. *insert pop musician joke here*

By residue

residue (http://www.videosift.com/member/residue) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:13:02 -0700

This could open the door for some interesting memes for sure

oh, and I suppose it could be mildly useful for music production too

By bellman

bellman (http://www.videosift.com/member/bellman) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:35:55 -0700

Totally cool clip and technology, but the way the announcer said MIDI made me want to throttle him. Is it just me? Do people say mee-dee?

By Red

Red (http://www.videosift.com/member/Red) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:14:53 -0700

the medium is the message ! ? !

By grinter

grinter (http://www.videosift.com/member/grinter) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:32:03 -0700

As far as I can tell, the theory really isn't that impressive. They seem to be bandpass filtering using a bunch of bins, and splitting the output among separate tracks.
The interface, on the other hand, is awesome!

By Abducted

Abducted (http://www.videosift.com/member/Abducted) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:44:07 -0700

Melodyne killed the Pop star.

No but seriously the pop music of today is killing legal music sales, this will only enable ordinary people with just as much talent as the "stars" to manipulate their way to good music without support of BadMusic Inc.

Live performances is what you pay for! Not digitally enhanced tunes of teenagers singing about their boyfriends and how slutty they are.
At least the metal heads have got this right.

/rant

By doremifa

doremifa (http://www.videosift.com/member/doremifa) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:53:01 -0700

Altering pitches to accommodate amateur singers has been around for a while (remember the New Kids on the Block?). This just takes it to another, easier level.

By E_Nygma

E_Nygma (http://www.videosift.com/member/E_Nygma) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:55:43 -0700

this guy looks like hugh jackman in 20 years

By MarineGunrock

MarineGunrock (http://www.videosift.com/member/MarineGunrock) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:52:45 -0700

It's like Photoshop for audio!

By nosro

nosro (http://www.videosift.com/member/nosro) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:49:09 -0700

I believe it was Brian Eno who declared that DJ's are the only remaining artists. This just reinforces that.

By Payback

Payback (http://www.videosift.com/member/Payback) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:14:29 -0700

I personally would like to welcome our new golden-semen-spewing sound-altering Jerry-Garcia-wannabe overlords.

By kingsblood

kingsblood (http://www.videosift.com/member/kingsblood) — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:55:35 -0700

Wow.

Wowie.

I love technology.

By ReverendTed

ReverendTed (http://www.videosift.com/member/ReverendTed) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:36:53 -0700

I don't think this will create more no-talent hacks - it just promotes the balance of talent to shift behind the microphone. And whether it's luck, talent, or technology, if it produces something worth listening to - then I'm glad it's there.

By silvercord

silvercord (http://silvercord.videosift.com) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:37:22 -0700

And, upvote for the Pink Floyd "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" riff rip at about 3:45. Oh, yea, and Direct Note Access . . . DNA. Which is what you're messing with here. You get to play with the DNA of the song. Nice.

By 8296

8296 (http://www.videosift.com/member/8296) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:24:49 -0700

sweet, i can't wait to see what experimental musicians will be able to come up with utilizing this.

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:00:24 -0700

*viral

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:00:25 -0700

Adding video to channels (Viral) - requested by jwray.

By raddishs

raddishs (http://www.videosift.com/member/raddishs) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:14:26 -0700

If anything I'd say this allows more musicians to appear. Just because they aren't a master at some instrument doesn't mean their vision of it is any less artistic.

By 8777

8777 (http://www.videosift.com/member/8777) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:01 -0700

Pitch correction lets me play my recorded songs to my friends without them becoming nauseated. It's much cheaper than hiring a singer. Some very talented songwriters, (myself not included), are not great vocalists. Jimmy Webb and Randy Newman come to mind.
But, it sucks when a pitch-corrected vocalist is sold as a performer. Ashley Simpson on SNL comes to mind. If you need pitch correction in the studio, you had better be offering up some talent besides your voice to an audience.

By bamdrew

bamdrew (http://www.videosift.com/member/bamdrew) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:13:54 -0700

Looks like it lets you set bin off certain sizes of a channels spectragram, then drag those bins around to manipulate harmonics or simultaneously played notes. Would be hard to use if didn't have clean, isolated samples. Would be silly to use if you didn't really want a super-clean sound.

Nice simple interface. I'm going to look around for tutorials.

Oh, I see that Grinter came to a similar conclusion... good times!

By 10040

10040 (http://www.videosift.com/member/10040) — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:25:31 -0700

>> ^uhohzombies:
Great, now we'll be enabling even MORE no talent hacks to become rich and famous just because they have nice tits.

Look up some early pink floyd interviews, and you will feel differently about that.

You, can use this to make your old job easier, r use it to make your work even moreso complexed, musical tools, especially this one, can only help the artist express what is inside. maybe you should look up what talent means, you can be pop AND talented! It doesn't happen very often but it does, if it didn't we would all shoot ourselves in the face.

By choggie

choggie (http://www.videosift.com/member/choggie) — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:58:15 -0700

$699 for the ultra-deluxe super-whizbang edition
*downloading now

By harry

harry (http://www.videosift.com/member/harry) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:42:28 -0700

The Melodyne dimension. Which season of Doctor Who was that?

By pmkierst

pmkierst (http://www.videosift.com/member/pmkierst) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:45:56 -0700

Very interesting. Well produced video as well; his voice is kind of hypnotic.

By MarineGunrock

MarineGunrock (http://www.videosift.com/member/MarineGunrock) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:05:25 -0700

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
I really hope this makes top 15, but I think it's too niche...

I guess I was wrong.

REALLY wrong. Good for you, nuke chips.

By fissionchips

fissionchips (http://fissionchips.videosift.com) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:38 -0700

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> Good for you, nuke chips.

Thanks. 200 is the new 100.

By oxdottir

oxdottir (http://www.videosift.com/member/oxdottir) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:10:16 -0700

*engineering

By siftbot

siftbot (http://siftbot.videosift.com) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:10:17 -0700

Adding video to channels (Engineering) - requested by oxdottir.

By deathcow

deathcow (http://www.videosift.com/member/deathcow) — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:22:43 -0700

incredible... stop saying MEEDY though... MID-DEE

By jrbedford

jrbedford (http://www.videosift.com/member/jrbedford) — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:52:11 -0800

I watch this every so often, and it still blows my mind every time.