Comments for "Logical Fallacies" Video at VideoSift.com

By doogle

doogle (http://www.videosift.com/member/doogle) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:15:48 -0700

So much I don't understand here. Please forgive me.

Begging/Bagging the question - what does it mean, apart from pointing out the other person is actually asking a question?
What's with the B- and D+ scores the guy is giving?

By drattus

drattus (http://www.videosift.com/member/drattus) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:31:32 -0700

doogle, the vid was funny but is more satire on how this stuff gets used on the internet rather than a lesson on what it really means. The scores were just his opinions of the type of arguments I'd guess.

For what Begging The Question means you can check the following page, main site has a bunch more and they add examples and lessons on logic fairly regularly.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/begquest.html

By doogle

doogle (http://www.videosift.com/member/doogle) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:42:28 -0700

Thanks Draftus - the post gets my *upvote

By NetRunner

NetRunner (http://www.videosift.com/member/NetRunner) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:53:56 -0700

I'm gonna add *politics, because, well a lot of these are used in politics.

Plus, anything with latin phrases seems *geek y to me.

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:53:56 -0700

Adding video to channels (Geek, Politics) - requested by NetRunner.

By djsunkid

djsunkid (http://djsunkid.videosift.com) — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:50:07 -0700

The grade scores are because it's Lore, formerly of http://www.brunching.com/ Lore has been giving aspects of life grade ratings since the 90s. The only person, place or thing that has ever, that will ever recieve a rating of F is Scrappy Doo. He has rated hundreds and hundreds of things, and never has he ever rated anything else that low.

By EDD

EDD (http://www.videosift.com/member/EDD) — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:15:44 -0700

>> ^djsunkid:
The only person, place or thing that has ever, that will ever recieve a rating of F is Scrappy Doo. He has rated hundreds and hundreds of things, and never has he ever rated anything else that low.

ha ha ha, seems that me and him are on the same page.

Although he was clearly in the wrong with "Begging the question". While it's true that almost nobody ever uses it correctly (see, even he did it wrong), it's actually quite simple to explain it, which he didn't even attempt - just gave some weird irrelevant examples.

Actually it is a specific sort of misuse of arguments in a debate - either using an idea not agreed upon by the other side as a supporting argument for your case, or even worse, using such a premise as a final conclusion.

As an easter egg, there's actually a case of a question begged in this very post of mine - an argument based on a floating premise not yet substantiated. Ahhh, Theory of Knowledge rules.

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:21:31 -0700

>> ^doogle:
So much I don't understand here. Please forgive me.

Begging/Bagging the question - what does it mean, apart from pointing out the other person is actually asking a question?

What's with the B- and D+ scores the guy is giving?

Try using google for 5 seconds before asking silly questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_%28education%29#United_States

By Sketch

Sketch (http://www.videosift.com/member/Sketch) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:20:57 -0700

Upvote for the education and for Dracula.

By Peroxide

Peroxide (http://www.videosift.com/member/Peroxide) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:29:16 -0700

Look, Sketch, you're either with us or against us, and we're not for education, but we are for Dracula. So choose a side dammit.

By Sketch

Sketch (http://www.videosift.com/member/Sketch) — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:43:19 -0700

I'm a Benedict Van Hellsing?

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:47:58 -0700

Tags for this video have been changed from 'alt, text, review, grade, logic, wired, dracula' to 'alt text, review, grade, logic, wired, dracula, Lore Sjoberg' - edited by fissionchips