Comments for "Fox News Subliminal Opening" Video at VideoSift.com

By NetRunner

NetRunner (http://www.videosift.com/member/NetRunner) — Sun, 11 May 2008 01:20:17 -0700

*lies
*election08

By siftbot

siftbot (http://www.videosift.com/member/siftbot) — Sun, 11 May 2008 01:20:17 -0700

Adding video to channels (Election08, Lies) - requested by NetRunner.

By Zonbie

Zonbie (http://zonbie.videosift.com) — Sun, 11 May 2008 04:00:38 -0700

Wow, Fox News - When Playing Fair Just Isn't Enough

By cybrbeast

cybrbeast (http://www.videosift.com/member/cybrbeast) — Sun, 11 May 2008 14:55:17 -0700

No f*cking way?!

By Aemaeth

Aemaeth (http://www.videosift.com/member/Aemaeth) — Sun, 11 May 2008 15:11:40 -0700

Ok, hang on. This isn't Fox News. This is Fox 5 News. It's a local news show in New York. This is not off the Fox News channel, it's only loosely affiliated. The Fox channel that is on broadcast television is not known for having the conservative/republican message of Fox News cable channel and is best known for having television shows of questionable moral content (see Temptation Island).

I will admit, it seems like a questionable intro (maybe they were going to feature a story about McCain early on, so I can't say it's even taken in context) but let's give credit where credit is due.

By NordlichReiter

NordlichReiter (http://www.videosift.com/member/NordlichReiter) — Sun, 11 May 2008 16:07:20 -0700

loosely affiliated? Who are they funded by, Fox. Reflection of authority.

By quantumushroom

quantumushroom (http://www.videosift.com/member/quantumushroom) — Sun, 11 May 2008 23:10:53 -0700

If only this subliminal thing was proven to work.

What about superliminal? "HEY YOU! JOIN THE NAVY!"

By honkeytonk73

honkeytonk73 (http://www.videosift.com/member/honkeytonk73) — Mon, 12 May 2008 10:52:10 -0700

I'll check the Boston area Fox broadcast tonight.

By kulpims

kulpims (http://www.videosift.com/member/kulpims) — Mon, 12 May 2008 11:20:17 -0700

what are you talking about? this was Fox 5 News on WNYW, channel 5 owned by FOX. how is that "loosely affiliated"? can't see why you're defending these assholes

>> ^Aemaeth:
Ok, hang on. This isn't Fox News. This is Fox 5 News. It's a local news show in New York. This is not off the Fox News channel, it's only loosely affiliated. The Fox channel that is on broadcast television is not known for having the conservative/republican message of Fox News cable channel and is best known for having television shows of questionable moral content (see Temptation Island).

I will admit, it seems like a questionable intro (maybe they were going to feature a story about McCain early on, so I can't say it's even taken in context) but let's give credit where credit is due.

By rychan

rychan (http://www.videosift.com/member/rychan) — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:16:13 -0700

Christ I didn't think videosift was so tin-foil-hatty. So they overlaid their intro on one of their news stories? Maybe they do this every night? Maybe they got one of their feeds messed up. Who knows what the production crews was up to, but I doubt it was any McCain conspiracy.

By honkeytonk73

honkeytonk73 (http://www.videosift.com/member/honkeytonk73) — Mon, 12 May 2008 20:14:47 -0700

LOL... they 'crossed feeds'. WTF does that -mean-? Please explain further. I'd love to hear a technical explanation of how a 'feed' can be crossed in such a manner. What... two satellite signals 'crossed' and just happened to position the image at that location.. or someone in the 'projector room' accidentally overlapped two rolls of 8mm reel-to-reel film? Maybe they accidentally loaded up their Betamax tapes out of order? LOL. Get real.

I suspect it isn't a McCain conspiracy, but apparently someone at Fox HQ (where such -standardized- graphical Fox banners are produced mind you) wanted to pass on a subliminal idea to the public. McCain doesn't need to give approval for such a thing, but the party political machine behind him surely would have the balls to do such a thing.

For this gaff, I place blame directly on Fox HQ, AND the local station for not properly previewing their material before broadcast. Someone should lose their job for this and Fox should be fined.

PS - A very good friend worked for 20+ years in TV broadcast and 25+ years in military communications, so I do have some base reference to draw on regarding the subject.

By DrPawn

DrPawn (http://www.videosift.com/member/DrPawn) — Mon, 12 May 2008 20:55:00 -0700

Some one needs fired.

By rychan

rychan (http://www.videosift.com/member/rychan) — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:26:11 -0700

>> ^honkeytonk73:
LOL... they 'crossed feeds'. WTF does that -mean-? Please explain further.

I don't know who you're addressing, since nobody in this discussion except you has used the term 'crossed feeds' even though you've quoted it.

The intro graphic is a transparent overlay. Maybe they didn't realize they were feeding one of that night's stories into the background channel. Maybe they did and didn't care because nobody would notice it.

Did that clip of John and Cindy appear as one of their news stories that night?

If this were Obama's face on a CBS affiliate, would you be as certain that it was an intentional conspiracy to help elect Obama?

By furrycloud

furrycloud (http://www.videosift.com/member/furrycloud) — Mon, 12 May 2008 23:33:31 -0700

Seriously? I could bearly even see that clip at regular speed... No way I could recognize who it was.

By Zeph

Zeph (http://zeph.videosift.com) — Tue, 13 May 2008 01:53:31 -0700

These are not the droids you're looking for...

By critttter

critttter (http://www.videosift.com/member/critttter) — Tue, 13 May 2008 05:44:04 -0700

(...must...vote......for....McCain....can't....help...myself....for the...love of ...god,..switch...channel...)

By 101

101 (http://www.videosift.com/member/101) — Tue, 13 May 2008 06:26:51 -0700

>> ^furrycloud:
Seriously? I could bearly even see that clip at regular speed... No way I could recognize who it was.

uhh thats why its called Subliminal your brain still sees it.. if you get bombarded with stuff like this it actually has an impact on you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message

By CaptainPlanet420

CaptainPlanet420 (http://www.videosift.com/member/CaptainPlanet420) — Tue, 13 May 2008 08:18:12 -0700

yer all the same people who cry when they're out of veggie burgers, methinks

By Duckman33

Duckman33 (http://www.videosift.com/member/Duckman33) — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:28:58 -0700

"Seriously? I could bearly even see that clip at regular speed... No way I could recognize who it was."

That's why it's called subliminal. The point is for you NOT to see it real time, but sub-consciously. Even though subliminal messages have never been proven to work, it's quite sneaky.

By honkeytonk73

honkeytonk73 (http://www.videosift.com/member/honkeytonk73) — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:56:27 -0700

You are right rychan.

A messed up transparent feed was fed into a background channel, which overlaid on a foreground channel for a microsecond during station identification broadcast just prior to the main news broadcast, resulting in a simultaneous display of two distinct and unrelated images of Mr and Mrs McCain positioned just right so that they meshed in with, but did not superimpose over the word 'FOX'.

I get it now.

LOL. I'll go put that tinfoil hat on now.

By rychan

rychan (http://www.videosift.com/member/rychan) — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:37:14 -0700

Are you trolling?

The partially transparent fox news graphic was obviously in the foreground, not the background. The graphic peels away to reveal the entire background video, except for the fox logo in the middle. So yes, McCain's face wasn't quite in the direct middle of the frame so it wasn't occluded. (when the cut is made, the overlay has only peeled away from the right half of the video, but it's on its way out).

The images of John and Cindy McCain were not unrelated, they were standing next to each other on stage in that footage.

The weird thing is not the fancy, peel-away intro graphic before a McCain story, but why there's a quick cut to the anchors instead of continuing that story. My guess is, once again, that they just recycled footage from earlier/later in the broadcast. Or this clip is just a mash up between two unrelated segments.

By budzos

budzos (http://www.videosift.com/member/budzos) — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:29:44 -0700

What is the big deal?