Comments for "136 mph Car Rally Jump" Video at VideoSift.com

By Payback

Payback (http://www.videosift.com/member/Payback) — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:52:33 -0700

Someone should remix this with Flight of The Valkyries and an orange Pinto wagon falling out of the sky.

Or maybe the dukes of hazard theme with crashing police cars...

By blutruth

blutruth (http://www.videosift.com/member/blutruth) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:02:59 -0700

I'm really not complaining here I swear, but I love how many videos I see and think "no one at VS will like that" and then they end up here with numerous votes.

By CrushBug

CrushBug (http://www.videosift.com/member/CrushBug) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:48:26 -0700

What model of car was that?

By Grimm

Grimm (http://www.videosift.com/member/Grimm) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:22:42 -0700

I'm calling bullshit on this one!

By viewer_999

viewer_999 (http://www.videosift.com/member/viewer_999) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:56:55 -0700

kph?

By 10419

10419 (http://www.videosift.com/member/10419) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:42:01 -0700

i liked the second jump with all the cows watching and cheering at the end. the first jump's audience of humans didnt seem as excited.

and yeah, probably kilometers, not miles.

By lucky760

lucky760 (http://lucky760.videosift.com) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:20:17 -0700

Yes, this is fake. They used footage from a Grand Turismo type game or something. (They researched it on AOTS the other day.) You can tell by looking frame by frame the shadow jumps ahead of the car while mid-air.

*shenanigans

By spoco2

spoco2 (http://www.videosift.com/member/spoco2) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:28:40 -0700

Oh come on, that shadow looks a grade terrible.

I'm going to say I 'think' this is fake indeed. (see, I don't state it as fact as others have on videos in the past, I state it as my opinion... people who state 'FAKE, oh look at that, it's FAKE' without really providing proof and stating it as fact are really annoying)

By pho3n1x

pho3n1x (http://pho3n1x.videosift.com) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:38:36 -0700

i don't know about the speed it was taken at, but you guys really think this is fake? i mean cmon, what reason would there be to fake it? rally cars jump like that all the time. do you guys watch wrc at all?

as for the shadow, the curvature in the road is probably what causes the shadow to appear as if it's jumping ahead of the car. the car itself (almost looks like an evo, but i can't tell for sure) reacts correctly it seems. *shrug* i dunno... i guess i just give everything too much credit.

By rubadub

rubadub (http://www.videosift.com/member/rubadub) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:43:50 -0700

This is absolutely ordinary for WRC cars and happens all the time. I was at one time infatuated with WRC, Subaru in particular. As for the make of the car, the blue and yellow along with the bulging wheel wells seems to indicate a Subaru. That is simply an educated guess. It might be a lower class, but I'm not sure if the lower level WRC drivers would be daring enough to take a jump at such speeds.

For comparison: (different livery, same idea)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm2rWx0zcvM

By Xax

Xax (http://www.videosift.com/member/Xax) — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:15:18 -0700

Dammit, someone beat me to a cattle joke.

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:47:02 -0700

Looks real enough.

By 8960

8960 (http://www.videosift.com/member/8960) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:07:20 -0700

yea, gotta say it looks pretty authentic to me.

By dag

dag (http://dag.videosift.com) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:34:27 -0700

So fake. The little pretty lens flare on the rear window cries "I'm CGI - how you like me now mofos?" or something like that.

By Raytrace

Raytrace (http://www.videosift.com/member/Raytrace) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:56:38 -0700

i'm hoping everyone who says this is fake is just being sarcastic or joking... it's hard to tell these days.

And apparently it IS at 136MPH.. or 220KPH. More info about this jump here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpx9c3zT6EY

By southblvd

southblvd (http://www.videosift.com/member/southblvd) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:33:50 -0700

Another angle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks_QPsvsONo

By oxdottir

oxdottir (http://www.videosift.com/member/oxdottir) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:10:29 -0700

Having examined the presented evidence, I'm throwing my vote to the authentic camp.

By sirex

sirex (http://www.videosift.com/member/sirex) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:17:29 -0700

its real. other drivers doing it (badly) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i61LZ0c3mNo&NR=1

By rottenseed

rottenseed (http://douchebag.videosift.com) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:47:10 -0700

It's a pretty scary age we live in where we have arguments over the authenticity of video footage that seems clear and real.

A possible explanation for the shadow appearing to jump ahead of the car as it reaches the bottom of the hill could be the fact the the slope of the ground changing gives us that illusion from the angle the cameraman recording from.

By rychan

rychan (http://www.videosift.com/member/rychan) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:08:37 -0700

Wow you guys are really living up to the internet "fake!" meme for something that looks completely reasonable.

I'm not saying you can't be skeptical. But you're not being skeptical, you're being extremely paranoid.

I mean, even if you start with the assumption that everything you see is fake, can't you at least be skeptical that someone might have slipped something real in there?

By blutruth

blutruth (http://www.videosift.com/member/blutruth) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:17:10 -0700

Here's a selection of other cars navigating the same stretch of road. Seems like they forgot to write "caution over crest" into their pacenotes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Cp05u9wDY

By Payback

Payback (http://www.videosift.com/member/Payback) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:03:33 -0700

I would just like to go on record as saying a lens flare is not indicative of falshood, rather poor videography and lack of proper filtering. If lens flares never happened IRL, they wouldn't be in games.

As for the car being able to make the jump... http://www.videosift.com/video/Rally-Car-Makes-171-Foot-Jump

By jwray

jwray (http://jwray.videosift.com) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:12:27 -0700

the position of the shadow is consistent with the curvature of the ground, the trajectory of the car, and assuming the sun is almost directly overhead

By Drachen_Jager

Drachen_Jager (http://www.videosift.com/member/Drachen_Jager) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:44:29 -0700

Speaking as someone with 10+ years of experience in CGI it looks real to me. The "jump" that some people see does indeed appear to be a bump in the road causing the shadow to move oddly. Also if people put the work into creating that kind of a fake there would be no reason for the shadow to "jump" in that way. So what you're seeing is actually an indication that it's real.

By calvados

calvados (http://www.videosift.com/member/calvados) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:15:52 -0700

>> ^jwray:
and assuming the sun is almost directly overhead

"I'm on a road, looks to be asphalt--aw jeez, trees, shrubs--uh, I'm directly under the earth's Sun...now."

/chief_wiggum

By spoco2

spoco2 (http://www.videosift.com/member/spoco2) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:04:13 -0700

See, I'm glad I said I 'thought' it was fake, as it is indeed real.

So all those who stated as fact that it was cg... time to be eating those words.

By kceaton1

kceaton1 (http://yogurtforthesoul.videosift.com) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:34:16 -0700

I would also add that you can see the visible effects of the trailing high/low pressure created by the car: grass, hair, etc; moving away/towards the car's path.

The editing or rendering would be fairly obvious.

By Grimm

Grimm (http://www.videosift.com/member/Grimm) — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:58:40 -0700

I guess it could be real...just doesn't look it to me. Look at the other videos of the other cars and look at the cars shadow. For the other cars the shadow looks natural...the shadow changes size as the car goes up and back down again. The shadow is defused around the edges in the other clips. In this clip the shadow looks like a solid black shape...very different then what you see in the other videos.