a) Nobody should be banned for expressing happiness for anyone's death. They're dead, it's not hurting them one bit. I sincerely hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.

b) I'm sorry schmawy, but the status quo is that we don't hold Siftquisitions - ultimately whatever punishment will be dealt to our monarch is all up to dag. I don't like it and I've voiced my disagreement with this 'community decision' vehemently, but those are the current rules. So while it's for the best for this discussion to be taken to Sift Talk instead of comments for the video, the results of this poll are more or less irrelevant.

c) (edit) the account appears to be unbanned as of couple minutes ago.

You didn't like it, I didn't like it, and Dag didn't like it when we dropped the SQ. If you looked back at those threads you'll see that I felt that the system, although democratic, lacked nuance in sentencing.

Dag said that he would try to abide by the outcome of polls.

So I'm taking advantage of loopholes, and gaming the System. I learned this from choggie, and even though some people disliked or even hated him, he ultimately made the sift stronger.

So go ahead and vote EDD. Remedy our "extremely stupid decision". You have the power.

Whom has the Sift "purged" for not being a lefty/liberal?

- CaptainPlanet420? - No, he was banned for deliberately and repeatedly using the wrong channel assignments, just to stir up some shit. He had already been banned for 2 weeks for the same offense prior to his permanent ban for repeat offending.

- BillOreilly? - No, he flamed out by going on a downvote spree, discarding a valid Sift Talk post, and declaring a good video dead. It was vandalism, plain and simple.

- choggie? - No, he flamed out by writing an ad hom Sift Talk post because the admins wouldn't give him another channel, then going on a downvote spree, and then discarding a video for no good reason. This was after he had already been banned for two weeks for wrongfully discarding a video, and prior to that he wrongfully discarded a video too, and he was warned to never do it again. So choggie's exile had nothing to do with his political views, and everything to do with his antisocial behavior.

- MINK? - MINK was never banned. He imposed his own exile. And people generally didn't like his comments NOT because they went against the prevailing sentiments, but because he generally labeled everything and everyone as "retarded." When you do something like that over and over, it's considered in most quarters to be "flaming."

- quantumushroom? - QM was temporarily banned for a downvote spree, not for his dissenting point of view. He's still here, BTW

If it were true that all members whose political points of view were not lefty/liberal have been systematically run off, then we wouldn't have blankfist, MarineGunrock, Doc_M, quantumushroom, Winstonfield_Pennypacker, and imstellar28 here, among others.

I won't debate you that this site is largely liberal, because it just is. However I remember when Ron Paul was the bees knees here, and he ain't exactly a darling of the left.

Basically I'm saying that it's unfair to accuse us of "purging" political dissenters, because it just ain't true.

Okay, KP. You're right. I was being samefully dramatic when I said "purged". I retract and apologize. The sift has always been fair to a fault, and I have suffered heartache from supporting the unpopular, as I do know. And watch, BobKnight will end up being a huge pain in the ass, probably, but I'd rather we let guilty people free than jail the innocent.

So, should I discard this poll then?

As far the Queen Issy's fate, well I wouldn't have done what she did, but I'm not going to vote in this poll at all because we eliminated SiftQuisitions.

And as long as we're discussing SiftQuisitions, I was against them because without any rules or even someone to guide the proceedings (like a judge), they are in essence mob justice. I'm all for revisiting the SiftQuisition feature. I'd like to see some type of formal justice around here that doesn't involve just one person. But the SiftQuisition feature as it stood generally sucked.

>> ^schmawy:
So, should I discard this poll then?


^I say don't, since we do need a place to discuss this. At the very least don't do so until the admin who unbanned the account has chirped in.

Well how does this look to you? As you can see, there is no option to permanently ban Issykitty, because noone wants that.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
As far the Queen Issy's fate, well I wouldn't have done what she did, but I'm not going to vote in this poll at all because we eliminated SiftQuisitions.
And as long as we're discussing SiftQuisitions, I was against them because without any rules or even someone to guide the proceedings (like a judge), they are in essence mob justice. I'm all for revisiting the SiftQuisition feature. I'd like to see some type of formal justice around here that doesn't involve just one person. But the SiftQuisition feature as it stood generally sucked.

>> ^dag:
I've reviewed the comments, and though he does appear to be half troll on his mother's side, it doesn't quite rise to anything bannable. I'm going to reverse the ban and unhobble you.
In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Hey dag,
It looks like started up some controversy today. I instabanned a trollish probie that caught my attention in one of the recently sifted vids which led to schmawy's shackling of me. Here is the guy's profile: http://www.videosift.com/member/bobknight33
I just wanted to get your take on this before this continues. Thanks.

We have no precedent for this, brother schmawy, so I'm not sure how to proceed. However I will point out this instaban, just for comparison:

http://www.videosift.com/member/nerbula#comment-796139

Can we temp ban the Emperor himself?

*discard

Discarding this post - discard requested by original submitter schmawy.

"! ima get my stars so i can fuck shit up."

That's a threat. Daddy doesn't want his shit fucked up. I don't take issue with that.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
We have no precedent for this, brother schmawy, so I'm not sure how to proceed. However I will point out this instaban, just for comparison:
http://www.videosift.com/member/nerbula#comment-796139
Can we temp ban the Emperor himself?

I could see the reason in his ban, not for the joy of ted kennedy's death - I don't really give a shit about that - but because of his comment history. We'll see.

And like kp said, it's not that we ban people we disagree with, the people we ban are abusers of power, who should be banned in any case - they just happen to be conservative, or whatever the hell they are.

Correlation does not mean causation, but there is an interesting trend.

I think that more often than not, our friend Schmawy is the reasonable sweet uncle for the sift. He takes you to the park and buys you ice cream, but you won't get to tear his shit up.
I see where he is coming from.
It's all about protecting what the sift is about and keeping it real.

I'm totally not siding, but I see his side as well as Issy's.

I like a pot stirrer now and then, and when someone has passed emotions are high.

"fucking shit up" could be taken as a figurative word for " get active in "

jes sayin....