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If you want to discuss this further or hear what I have to say about it then let me know. If it's just blowing off steam that's fine too.
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Well, there are many different ways to view God, which is always a problem when trying to have a discussion about it, because something you say can always be refuted by "thats not the kind of God I believe in !" I think in the video clip I submitted Attenborough is simply against those religious who cannot see God as allowing something bad, but want to credit him for everything that is good.
I used to be a silent atheist. Let anyone think what they want and believe in their God. But in the last 5 years Ive seen how religious people actively try to change things in their surroundings based on what ancient books tells them and it frightens me. It scares me shitless. And it makes me angry. I dont have the same kind of respect for religion as I had once because I think the practice of religion forces unwanted changes on innocent parties.
The way women are treated in muslim countries. The way gay people are treated and loathed all around. Trying to get creationism taught in schools. "No, this is not my religion, their religion is to blame, their way of practicing religion is to blame, they havent read the Book and understood it properly". I dont accept that. I think religion in itself is to blame. I think it limits the minds of the people who practice it by providing answers to the hard questions in form of dogma and inserting a ready-made world view to be adopted by the follower.
All the energy of curiousity gets transformed into a sense of righteous belief, splitting the world up into fractions of right and wrong, black and white, more and more absolute lines drawn. And how do you reason or argue with someone who bases their beliefs about the world around them on things that cannot be tried or disproven?
I think I have too many points for just one rant. I do believe we are starting to live in more dangerous times where the common religious followers are forming fertile soil for the growing of extremism, be it islamic or christian or any other form.
In reply to this comment by burdturgler:
I think people who think God doesn't allow suffering have never read the bible. That would include any of the "believers". It ain't all sunshine and unicorns. Bad things happen (welcome to Earth). How this is God's fault is beyond me. I guess he should take away free will and turn us all into robots. But then none of this would matter.
Disappointed to see you upvote this. Any "jihad" wishing for the destruction of a whole religious group .. might as well be religious ..
But, to each his own, I say.
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Hi man
Thought Id leave my comment on the video "David Attenborough on God" I posted. My take on his answers is that he is irritated with religion and does answer another question than the one being posed, but probably because he gets hounded by religious zealots, just the way you think Videosift prosecutes religion (and to be fair it seems an atheistic community) and it gets you riled up after a while...
The important point I think is that a lot of religious people have this view of the Christian (or Islamic, or Jewish) God as Good and Loving and seem to be making up excuses for anything bad that happens. If I were a believer, Im not, I wouldnt assume God weeps every time I get a bruise. I guess David is saying that a relationship with God needs to be honest and he doesnt share their reasoning that God is not responsible for anything bad.
Or I completely missed the point
Disappointed to see you upvote this. Any "jihad" wishing for the destruction of a whole religious group .. might as well be religious ..
But, to each his own, I say.
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Hi man
Thought Id leave my comment on the video "David Attenborough on God" I posted. My take on his answers is that he is irritated with religion and does answer another question than the one being posed, but probably because he gets hounded by religious zealots, just the way you think Videosift prosecutes religion (and to be fair it seems an atheistic community) and it gets you riled up after a while...
The important point I think is that a lot of religious people have this view of the Christian (or Islamic, or Jewish) God as Good and Loving and seem to be making up excuses for anything bad that happens. If I were a believer, Im not, I wouldnt assume God weeps every time I get a bruise. I guess David is saying that a relationship with God needs to be honest and he doesnt share their reasoning that God is not responsible for anything bad.
Or I completely missed the point
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Haha how can this http://www.videosift.com/video/Japanese-Beethoven-s-5th-Symphony-rendition-in-a-restaurant possibly have had only one vote before I gave it a 2nd? Its funny !
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
I was drinking whisky and going through the animation channel and just thought since you posted this:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Count-the-warning-signs-in-Michael-Jackson-s-Moonwalker
you might like to see this one:
http://animation.videosift.com/video/Michael-Quest-MJ-pwns-all-your-beloved-games
- thanks for letting me know
take care have a good one
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Yo
http://www.videosift.com/video/Rowan-Atkinson-Conservatives-HILARIOUS
is a dupe of
http://www.videosift.com/video/Not-The-Nine-OClock-News-Conservative-Conference
I dont know where else to post the info, so I just grabbed the first diamond I could find (you) and wrote you this message.
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
*dead , possible replacement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZswLUeLZCA
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Oooooooor youre just overthinking it
In reply to this comment by schmawy:
CaptainPlanet downvotes any and all Sagan. I'm not sure why. Is it in fact the way he dresses? I gotta say his turtlenecks are fabulous. He's mentioned his voice as being an irritant. I think that to most people's ears it's very soothing, as evidenced by his popularity. Has the Captain had some kind of traumatic personal experience associated with Sagan? Only he could say.
I've come to think that the thing CP dislikes about Sagan so much is that he has popularized rational thought, bought enlightenment into the living room and chased away the darkness that so many nefarious agents use to hide their agendas. If the people learn to think, then their influence begins to unravel, because their control is based on superstition, fear, and ignorance.
Thanks for the thoughtful response.
I'll edit what I said there.
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
In reply to this comment by chtierna:
The comedy channel assignment was only because their plan was absolutely insane. I just couldnt take it seriously (although I guess I should have) and you could even hear the news anchor laugh in the background. Still, I am sorry if I offended anyone, that was not my intent.
Do you want me to remove the video as a dupe? I think its from the same channel but before (after?) your video?
In reply to this comment by burdturgler:
Comedy is a rather sick channel assignment for this.
*nochannel
*election08
*news
see also:
http://www.videosift.com/video/ATF-Disrupts-Barack-Obama-Assassination-Plot